over 70% of voters didn't have Liz as their first choice. There is therefore not a clear mandate - in any case we were not voting for a Provost. My view is that Laurie did a better job than Liz in any case.
and 84%+ didn't have Laurie, Colin or Michael as their first choice. Over 56% of the possible voters didn't bother. Remove the candidates who weren't successful and Liz takes 43%, etc etc. Whatever way the figures are manipulated and presented you can't get away from the fact that Liz had the most first preferences and so on and so on. The bottom line is she came top of the poll, she was home and dry having reached the necessary quota on the first round and she didn't have to rely on any of the next set of preferences. I agree with the Gurn that when the decision is made it should be carried out in public so we all know how it came about and the people making the decision fully explain there reasoning behind it.
That last comment is completely not true Anonymous. Whatever Liz may say she was extremely political chairing the Spring Nairnshire partnership and Ward Forum meeting to the extent that I made a complaint and let it be known that if it continued I would no longer attend. Whilst Liz works hard she does not seem to know when she is making a political statement . the chair should always be non political and hold an open mind!
As I see the votes - overall when all the votes were calculated for all the preferences Liz and Laurie tied. So much for the Gurn predicting the demise of Laurie.
Gurn can you revert to be non political please? Your effectieveness is reduced when you are som openly biased towards one party.
If you don't like the political bias of the Gurn may I suggest you just stop reading it rather than complain.
It's Gaisg's blog, and he is very entitled to hold an opinion. Plenty of blogasphere space out there if you want to start your own Anon, not that you will
Well Anon, we please ourselves what we write about on the Gurn, if not satisfied please accept a full refund. You want a non-political world well Laurie, Sandy and Graham were part of the ruling administration of the Indy/Lab/LibDem alliance at Glenurquhart Road. Obviously the gradual erosion of Nairn's status as Invercentralism gathered pace under that administration was non-political.
@ Bob, please forward to the Gurn a copy of the rules for the office of Provost and then we'll post them alongside your comment. I suspect there aren't any but I may be wrong.
We have two new players in the Nairn team on Highland Council and I would prefer to see a Provost elected without all this bickering. It's politics of the playground - that's ma' ba' so give me it back! All the lectorate asks for is members to have a unity of purpose. Surely at the start of a new term the chosen four should have more weighty issues to think about than who gets the chain. This debate does little else than demean the office of Provost which ONCE was a position that carried with it great responsibility. If we have political divison - two SNP and two independents - at loggerhead before even a ball is kicked it does not auger well for that 'unity of purpose'.
If all was so harmonious in the political world why would we have different parties. You can ridicule differences as childish if you so wish, and indeed a peek at what goes on at Westminster might indeed deserve that label at times. But part of politics is about debate and I hope our local councillors will do just that and no doubt reach an agreed decision on many policies no just that of who will be provost
I think the word you are looking for is more 'agreed; rather than 'unity'
As Liz was 'sacked' by the other 3 in private, the rest of us have no real idea of why they did it. I assume there were no minutes? This is why so many people feel the action taken was underhand. Decisions were made in private and some sort of meetings must have taken place before they confronted her. We do not even know if she was given a chance to respond or was it a fait accompli. This time round it has to all be done in public.
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over 70% of voters didn't have Liz as their first choice. There is therefore not a clear mandate - in any case we were not voting for a Provost. My view is that Laurie did a better job than Liz in any case.
How would you have it decided then anon?
Let them all 4 have a wee spell each maybe 6 months at a time, see who tries the hardest!
What a load of nonsense! Liz had her turn and blew it, Laurie seems to be doing a good job, let him get on with it.
and 84%+ didn't have Laurie, Colin or Michael as their first choice. Over 56% of the possible voters didn't bother. Remove the candidates who weren't successful and Liz takes 43%, etc etc.
Whatever way the figures are manipulated and presented you can't get away from the fact that Liz had the most first preferences and so on and so on.
The bottom line is she came top of the poll, she was home and dry having reached the necessary quota on the first round and she didn't have to rely on any of the next set of preferences.
I agree with the Gurn that when the decision is made it should be carried out in public so we all know how it came about and the people making the decision fully explain there reasoning behind it.
Liz was sacked by the other three when she spoke out against proposals to close the swimming pool to save money.
That last comment is completely not true Anonymous. Whatever Liz may say she was extremely political chairing the Spring Nairnshire partnership and Ward Forum meeting to the extent that I made a complaint and let it be known that if it continued I would no longer attend. Whilst Liz works hard she does not seem to know when she is making a political statement . the chair should always be non political and hold an open mind!
As I see the votes - overall when all the votes were calculated for all the preferences Liz and Laurie tied. So much for the Gurn predicting the demise of Laurie.
Gurn can you revert to be non political please? Your effectieveness is reduced when you are som openly biased towards one party.
@ Anon 1:57
Liz won not Laurie, get over it
If you don't like the political bias of the Gurn may I suggest you just stop reading it rather than complain.
It's Gaisg's blog, and he is very entitled to hold an opinion. Plenty of blogasphere space out there if you want to start your own Anon, not that you will
Well Anon, we please ourselves what we write about on the Gurn, if not satisfied please accept a full refund.
You want a non-political world well Laurie, Sandy and Graham were part of the ruling administration of the Indy/Lab/LibDem alliance at Glenurquhart Road. Obviously the gradual erosion of Nairn's status as Invercentralism gathered pace under that administration was non-political.
@ Bob, please forward to the Gurn a copy of the rules for the office of Provost and then we'll post them alongside your comment.
I suspect there aren't any but I may be wrong.
We have two new players in the Nairn team on Highland Council and I would prefer to see a Provost elected without all this bickering. It's politics of the playground - that's ma' ba' so give me it back! All the lectorate asks for is members to have a unity of purpose. Surely at the start of a new term the chosen four should have more weighty issues to think about than who gets the chain. This debate does little else than demean the office of Provost which ONCE was a position that carried
with it great responsibility. If we have political divison - two SNP and two independents - at loggerhead before even a ball is kicked it does not auger well for that 'unity of purpose'.
@Spelding
If all was so harmonious in the political world why would we have different parties. You can ridicule differences as childish if you so wish, and indeed a peek at what goes on at Westminster might indeed deserve that label at times. But part of politics is about debate and I hope our local councillors will do just that and no doubt reach an agreed decision on many policies no just that of who will be provost
I think the word you are looking for is more 'agreed; rather than 'unity'
As Liz was 'sacked' by the other 3 in private, the rest of us have no real idea of why they did it. I assume there were no minutes? This is why so many people feel the action taken was underhand. Decisions were made in private and some sort of meetings must have taken place before they confronted her. We do not even know if she was given a chance to respond or was it a fait accompli. This time round it has to all be done in public.
Don't worry Inverness will pick the Nairn Provost.
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